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	<title>Comments on: Story versus Formula</title>
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	<description>the randomness of a distracted existential tour guide.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/05/18/story-versus-formula/#comment-2461</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 11:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a formula guy too. I still fight it a bit. That's why I blog all the process ministry stuff. Good to see someone else making the connections. 

There is also other good news. Since Catbird hasn't corrected this post, apparently it must be error free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a formula guy too. I still fight it a bit. That&#8217;s why I blog all the process ministry stuff. Good to see someone else making the connections. </p>
<p>There is also other good news. Since Catbird hasn&#8217;t corrected this post, apparently it must be error free.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/05/18/story-versus-formula/#comment-2385</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 15:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great conversation.

any post that brings out two 'lurkers' has got to be good!! ha ha.  Thanks David and Bud.

Jerry - just for grins, CS Lewis (and more recently McClaren) in the Great Divorce has an interesting viewpoint of what Hell is.

My purpose is not to define or defend a particular position on Hell but rather to say that 'belief' in Jesus for the purpose of escaping Hell might not be enough.  Is that kind of 'belief' salvific?  Could it miss the point completely and put the owner of said belief even more in danger of experiencing Hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great conversation.</p>
<p>any post that brings out two &#8216;lurkers&#8217; has got to be good!! ha ha.  Thanks David and Bud.</p>
<p>Jerry - just for grins, CS Lewis (and more recently McClaren) in the Great Divorce has an interesting viewpoint of what Hell is.</p>
<p>My purpose is not to define or defend a particular position on Hell but rather to say that &#8216;belief&#8217; in Jesus for the purpose of escaping Hell might not be enough.  Is that kind of &#8216;belief&#8217; salvific?  Could it miss the point completely and put the owner of said belief even more in danger of experiencing Hell?</p>
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		<title>By: Bud</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/05/18/story-versus-formula/#comment-2365</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 14:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidence of a deeper relationship with Jesus Christ…no longer about heaven and hell personally (doubt is gone) but about how to reach, teach and inspire others to experience Jesus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidence of a deeper relationship with Jesus Christ…no longer about heaven and hell personally (doubt is gone) but about how to reach, teach and inspire others to experience Jesus</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/05/18/story-versus-formula/#comment-2349</link>
		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is some great insight... the same thing we've talked about before but with some great new perspective.  Good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is some great insight&#8230; the same thing we&#8217;ve talked about before but with some great new perspective.  Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://grantenglish.com/archives/2006/05/18/story-versus-formula/#comment-2327</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...whatever he decides to do with it - I’m okay with."

While I see your point, I imagine this perspective would last for about one millisecond in Hell. 

On the other hand, this language should have framed the "Lordship salvation/cheap grace" discussion of 15 years ago. It would have made it far more productive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;whatever he decides to do with it - I’m okay with.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I see your point, I imagine this perspective would last for about one millisecond in Hell. </p>
<p>On the other hand, this language should have framed the &#8220;Lordship salvation/cheap grace&#8221; discussion of 15 years ago. It would have made it far more productive.</p>
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